people need to demand a plan and cities all across america, certainly, need to join this fight. i'm very proud the u.s. conference of mayors, numerous mayors are signed on to this effort as well. >> michael nutter of philadelphia, we appreciate it. it really is the pairing of two unbelievable tragedies, the mental illness in western new york and this horrific tragedy. interesting to see -- >> i know you have to go, the fiscal cliff -- the fiscal cliff wants to cut money from mental health services. >> indeed. mr. michael nutter of philadelphia, we appreciate it. >>> let's shift back to the fiscal cliff and the art of the possible with one of the lawmakers that will have to pass a vote if a deal is consummated, kay bailey hutchison, member of the appropriations committee and republican from texas, she joins me now. thanks so much for being on the program. >> thank you, luke. >> so we know now the ball is in the senate's court, emphasis is now on harry reid and mitch mcconnell. seems the house is not in session. johnny isakson, your colleague from georgia said congress should pass